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I saw this trailer as well. Lots of nice pictures, but still early days. I'm not sure at all that they will be able to capture the 'talking' about 'ideas' which, is what in my memory made these stories worthwhile. From what I recall there was not a …
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(Quote) I agree she did use them, because that is our present and already developed situation. Her moral premise (should not use) is defeated by everyday life - of course people use other people, and should use them, and should be willing to be used…
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(Quote) This is why I don't think ACH (which certainly has an aspect of being things thrown in a bag) should be considered a novel. That said, it doesn't help us much figure out what it is. My point is the reader it produces isn't the of the same ty…
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Janitor perhaps.
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There is something disturbing here about the relation of imagination and everyday, something that RPGs could play with, but I think in practice such play is rare. Imagining and constructing, though related, are not the same activities, and construct…
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I don't think Pandora is an observer. LeGuin says in Pandora Worries About What She Is Doing: The Pattern (Quote) Pandora is someone who opens a box and takes the things out, looking at them simply out of an insatiable curiosity, uncaring as to wh…
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I want to know how these games' systems worked in a session, and across sessions. Did your play group want to play these more than once (or maybe not what you do)? How long did it take people to grok what was happening? It seems quite artificial (…
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(Quote) Thanks for the list. I'd like to hear about Smallville and the Drama System. Do you think Drama System might be added to other games?
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(Quote) Quite a lot, so I am going to focus on just a few things. Happy to discuss anything else though. (Quote) What about RPGS as finding out who you are, and who you could be? (Quote) What ACH did for me was open a way to think about playing in…
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(Quote) Mediæval as a description fine with me. As long as we understood that no matter what word we use, in the context of discussing this culture in ACH, it has to convey the idea that the author (Pandora? perhaps not the narrator) thinks the cult…
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(Quote) Looking forward to your longer post coming up. (Quote) If you mean the process of playing the game, yes - see my comment a moment ago. And yet, despite a rhetoric, often in introductions, I have rarely seen e.g. grief given any role in role…
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(Quote) I think that it depends on whether we are involved in competitive gaming, or recreational gaming. One of the things that attracted me to RPGs was the recreational and communal aspect of the play (as opposed to say organised sports, which I a…
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(Quote) Not sure why you think Manichaen thought is not dualistic. I'm using the term in a very loose sense, where the key point is that good and evil actually exist and are in a conflict that we cannot avoid (by i.e. running away). In more detail,…
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(Quote) Marvel Comic Universe - The Avengers movies et al.
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Edit: moved from other thread. What do you make of the spiral radius? I think she means that the spiral is not infinite, but that one arm goes out to a straight-line distance of 4 from the source, while the other goes out to 5. There is a straight …
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Edit: moved to other thread
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@dr_mitch I too find that it goes better the more it goes. I also find this each time I read the book, which disrupts my idea that it was somehow getting in harmony with the work depends on knowing it. Reading the end without the beginning doesn't h…
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(Quote) More like unstudied gazing at a picture than following a narrative?
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Also read Red Mars a while ago but, as I think everyone knows about me, I like reading things more than once.
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@RichardAbbott I hope you get through more of it to hear what you think after another couple of hundred pages. I have many of the same thoughts, but this is the third time I am reading the book, so I guess it must have something (for? or on? me). Th…
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(Quote) Well I will READ it then ;) (Quote) Got it. Will have to think a bit about how the idea of 'Marxist historiography' is being used there. Reading your post made me wonder what influence Russians authors like Tolstoy and Dostoeskvy might hav…
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(Quote) Yes there is that, which surprised me the first time I read it. But I meant more that there is an irritated and preachy LeGuin (Pandora) whose voice we haven't heard much in the other books we have read, as you said: (Quote) edit (Quote) A…
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(Quote) I find the author's conceit of being a translator interesting. There's a recognition that the poetry isn't quite poetry ... (Quote) I wonder. I think the voices were important to her. (Quote) I'm not sure what you mean. The Kesh society cl…
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So I have started a first discussion thread here.
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Seems fine. Look forward to hearing from folks around the first of May. BC
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Hi @Apocryphal this will be fine. Will wait for your updates. Maybe you can just add a poll to the thread to make sure everyone who is interested has received their copy? Or people can just chime in - I have a copy in hand.
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The 'Back of the Book' section might be a slog if read straight through, so I suggest that after reading a bit glance at it to see the kind questions it answers. I found the Glossary helpful while reading.
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I'm suggesting that we read to the end of the second part of Stone Telling's story. It ends on p. 242 in the Author's Expanded edition, and P. 201 in my first edition. Part of the fascination of the book for me is trying to figure out what the core…
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My previous post is first a question: Should we do something before the end of May (say early May?), and second the suggestion of a possible point we could have a discussion about what we have gotten from the book so far. I know that I will prepare …
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Thanks @Apocryphal for changing the title. As we are taking a bit longer to read this, shall we do the discussion in one go at the end, or should we have some discussion as we go? Obviously we need to avoid spoilers, but the structure is well, diff…