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        <title>106. (January 2022) The Orenda, by Joseph Boyden — The Tabletop Roleplayers' Book Club</title>
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        <title>The Orenda Q8: Authenticity</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>If you google the author, you're bound to find comments on his authenticity. Boyden claims native descent, but has never been able to prove it - perhaps hasn't really tried. You can see much of this described on his wikipedia page: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Boyden" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Boyden</a></p>

<p>This kind of authenticity is really important to the native community, for reasons that I think will be obvious to any Canadian. My question here is not whether authenticity is important, empirically, but to what degree it matters to you. Think about your own unique cultural heritage. Who is qualified to tell the stories of your culture? Does that authenticity come from birth, upbringing, love, interest, or something else?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda Q2: Characters</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Orenda follows three main characters - the Jesuit Priest, Christophe, the Wendat warrior, Bird, and the young Haudenosaunee girl, Snow Falls. Did you find these characters convincing? The narration flips from one character's perspective to another - does each character have equal weight, or does one come to dominate the others? Did you have any favourites among the secondary characters?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda - Q1: Impressions</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 19:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>As often to begin these book discussions, I like to ask about general impressions. It's one thing to discuss the individual qualities of a book, but often one's overall impression can get lost in this. So - did you like it? Did the story hold your interest? Would you see the film? Why or why not?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda Q7: Historicity</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>This is historical fiction, and in interviews the author discusses the degree of research he undertook. The book was also reviewed and vetted for accuracy by noted Wendat historian Georges Sioui. <a href="https://www.strongnations.com/gs/show.php?gs=3&amp;gsd=1538" rel="nofollow">https://www.strongnations.com/gs/show.php?gs=3&amp;gsd=1538</a></p>

<p>And yet others have pointed out several historical accuracies, particularly around the way the Iroqouis were portrayed, and how the fall of the Wendat took place a generation after the death of Champlain:</p>

<p><a href="https://peggyblair.wordpress.com/2013/10/30/the-orenda-by-joseph-boyden-a-historical-review/" rel="nofollow">https://peggyblair.wordpress.com/2013/10/30/the-orenda-by-joseph-boyden-a-historical-review/</a></p>

<p>How important is historicity to historic fiction? To what degree can we forgive the inconsistencies in favour of a good story?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda Q6: Heroes &amp; Villains</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Are there heroes and villains in this story? If so, who are they? Does one individual or group stand out as the hero? What about the villain?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda Q4: The Narrator</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Orenda is divided into three parts, each of which is prefaced by the voice of a narrator (with text in italics). At the end, the narrator concludes the book with this paragraph:</p>

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  <p>And so when the crows arrived to caw that our orenda was unclean, at first we laughed. Aataentsic [the Sky Woman and mother of the Wendat] did, too. But she didn't laugh for the same reasons. She'd already foreseen the nests the crows had begun to build as they plucked the odd feather from our hair or begged a strip of hide from our bundle even as we looked into their eyes. Aataentsic laughed because she is just as imperfect as we are. She laughed because we couldn't see our own demise coming.</p>
  
  <p>But hindsight is sometimes too easy, isn't it? And so maybe this is what Aataentsic wants to tell. What's happened in the past can't stay in the past for the same reason the future is always just a breath away. Now is what's most important, Aataentsic says. Orenda can't be lost, just misplaced. The past and future are present.</p>
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<p>Who is the narrator. What are they trying to say about the past and the future?</p>
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        <title>Author motivations</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2022 09:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>A question I have about the book: why did Boyden write this book, in the way he did? It reads more like a dramatisation of historical records and diaries than a work of modern fiction. Should we regard this as a dramatic work, a dramatised retelling of an historical event, an attempt to educate Westerners about that period, or as an attempt to give a voice to the often-silenced First Nations people? And does the book work as any or all of them?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda Q5: Outcomes</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Does the story have an inevitable outcome? Did the discovery of the The Americas by Europeans have an inevitable outcome?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda Q3: The Mystical Indian</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The Mystical Indian is a trope wherein the 'native' character is depicted as somehow being mystical or magical in their character. This is rather like the 'mystical easterner' that is wrapped up in accusations of 'orientalism'. Do you think the trope applies to this novel?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda Q9: Roleplaying and Writing in the First Person</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 20:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Feel free to use this topic to talk about how you might roleplay this, if you are so inspired. I'd like to go a little beyond this, though, to talk about the similarity between writing and roleplaying.</p>

<p>Here we have a rather unusual situation in that this story is told to us by three different people, each in the first person. To give us all these different voices, Boyden had to put himself mentally into the headspace of each of these three people and attempt to tell their story in a unique voice. Isn't that a form of authorial roleplaying? Did he succeed in this? When you roleplay, how likely are you to make each character distinct? Is each character really different, or are they afterall, just aspects of YOU?</p>
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        <title>The Orenda: Description and back cover blurb</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2021 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Orenda, by Joseph Boyden</strong> A historical epic about a clash of nations as seen through the eyes of a Huron man, an Iroquois woman, and a French missionary. It was nominated for many rewards when it came out and remains highly regarded.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17661831-the-orenda?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=efE3graFZD&amp;rank=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17661831-the-orenda?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=efE3graFZD&amp;rank=1</a></p>

<p><em>The Back Cover Blurb:</em><br />
"In the remote winter landscape a brutal massacre and the kidnapping of a young Iroquois girl violently re-ignites a deep rift between two tribes. The girl’s captor, Bird, is one of the Huron Nation’s great warriors and statesmen. Years have passed since the murder of his family, and yet they are never far from his mind. In the girl, Snow Falls, he recognizes the ghost of his lost daughter, but as he fights for her heart and allegiance, small battles erupt into bigger wars as both tribes face a new, more dangerous threat from afar.</p>

<p>Traveling with the Huron is Christophe, a charismatic missionary who has found his calling among the tribe and devotes himself to learning and understanding their customs and language. An emissary from distant lands, he brings much more than his faith to this new world, with its natural beauty and riches.</p>

<p>As these three souls dance with each other through intricately woven acts of duplicity, their social, political and spiritual worlds collide - and a new nation rises from a world in flux."</p>
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